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Norman Surface Drain Installation

French Drains Can

1.  Keep water away from foundations

A French Drain is best because it can move Surface Water and Sub-Surface Water (water moving underground) away from the foundation. 
 

Many times, less experienced companies install Surface Drains to keep water away from foundations.  This can be a big mistake. 

 
A Surface Drain can’t move or drain Sub-Surface Water.
Surface Drain

Surface Drain Installation

Surface Drains Can’t Remove Ground Water

A Surface Drain often can’t move enough water fast enough and easily becomes overwhelmed during a heavy rain.  A Surface Drain also can’t cover or protect a broad enough area.
 
Surface Drains should be designed in a Drainage System to be located in smaller Drainage Areas moving moderate amounts of water.  Surface Drains look better than French Drains. If, “appearance” is more important than Drainage Capacity, Go with the Surface Drain.  Just know what you are getting into and what your expectations should be. One side of a foundation alone, can be over 100 feet.  A 4 inch or 6-inch French Drain is best when protecting a large area such as a foundation.

Surface Drains Work Well in Smaller Areas

Keep water away from small or enclosed areas.  This might be a low area just through a gate on the side of a house, or the low area between a flowerbed and the wall of a house or standing water on or near a sidewalk or driveway. These types of Drainage Problems are best served with Surface Drains
 
A Surface Drain can move water away from a low area that is relatively small.  This can occur in yards, flowerbeds, sidewalks and driveways.
 
A Surface Drain is designed to move Surface Water away from a problem area to a predetermined exit point. Surface Drains are available in many sizes.  How quickly they remove standing water is usually determined by the size of the Drainpipe that is connected to the Drain.
Surface Drain Installation in Norman

Channel Drain Installation Is a Central Focus for Oklahoma Drainage.  We have been Installing Channel Drains set in Concrete since 1993.

Channel Drain Set in Concrete

Channel Drains can look great and be very functional and durable.
Channel Drain in Driveway

Channel Drain Installed in Driveway

However, A Channel Drain is not an easy thing to install!  It takes a great deal of precision, Experience, and Attention to Detail.  This is Definitely Not something to allow your Landscape Company to attempt, or your Brother-In-Law!

Just because someone is skilled at pushing a mower around, doesn’t mean you should let them cut across your driveway with a concrete saw.

I get a lot of business fixing and replacing Drains of all types that were installed incorrectly by landscape companies and armatures.  Typically, they stick to messing up French Drains, but I have fixed Channel Drains that were an absolute “Train Wreck!” as well.

 

Oklahoma Drainage 405 203 9419

French Drain Installation, Channel Drain Installation Surface Drain Installation, Drainage System Installation, 

 

 

 

WHERE WE HAVE WORKED!

In 1993 we had no website.  I stuck little signs on the side of the road as advertisement.  I got my first Drain Installation work in March of 1993 in Norman.  It was in Brookhaven North of Robinson Street on the West side of I 35.

Over the years Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair has installed all types of Drainage Systems in almost Every town in Central and Western Oklahoma.

The majority of our customers live in Oklahoma City, Norman, Edmond, Yukon, Mustang, Moore, Midwest City, Del City, Blanchard, New Castle, Yukon and Choctaw.

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair hasn’t been limited to those areas, however.  We have also installed French Drains, Surface Drains, Channel Drains, and Sump Pumps in many other cities.

Working Drainage Systems Installed by Oklahoma Drainage also reside in: Lawton, Duncan, Ardmore, Chickasha, Shawnee, Enid, Weatherford, Elk City, El reno and many other places.

If you live in any of these Cities or towns, we have installed a French Drain, Surface Drain, Channel Drain, or Sump Pump within 5 miles of your home.

Trench Liner and Pipe Filter Installed on French Drain

Trench Liner and Pipe Filter Installed with French Drain

Here is a description of other recent work.

A little bit North of Downtown Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Drainage installed a 6-inch French Drain between two businesses which were less than three feet apart.  The French Drain went between a Law Firm and a Tire shop.  Water was leaking through the walls of both businesses.  Gutters between the two establishments were dumping a huge amount of water.  We installed a 6-inch French Drain between the gutters.

It took a long time to get the dirt out of the trench for the French Drain.  It was a very tight fit.  We had to use a little red wagon to haul out the dirt for the French Drain and haul back in the crushed limestone for the French Drain.  It looked a little silly, but it was the only thing we could find that was narrow enough to fit between the buildings.  A French Drain that normally would take 1 day to install took three.

Sprinkler Repair

Sprinkler Repair Service Provided by Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair

Since 1993 we have Replaced Sprinkler Valves that were sticking or were wore out.

Thousands of Sprinkler Heads have been adjusted.

Countless Sprinkler Controllers have been Reprogramed or Replaced.

We also have fixed a broken Sprinkler Pipe or Two.  Seems like a million.  Ok, not that many.

I wonder how many?  A lot!!!!

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair provides Service for all of Central Oklahoma Including:  Oklahoma City, Norman, Edmond, Moore, Yukon and Mustang.

Emergency Sprinkler Repair

Sometimes things go wrong with sprinkler systems.

 

IF YOU NEED HELP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR ON A WEEKEND WITH YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM, GIVE US A CALL.

OKLAHOMA DRAINAGE AND SPRINKLER REPAIR.  405 203 9419

IT MAY TAKE A FEW HOURS FOR US TO GET THERE BUT WE WILL COME TO HELP.

 

One Common problem is that they continue to run and won’t shut off.  In most cases this is a problem with a sprinkler valve that has “Stuck” in the on position.

This can be temporarily solved by shutting of the Emergency Shutoff Valve.  The problem is that some sprinkler systems don’t have one to turn off or if they do the homeowner doesn’t know where it is.

It may be on the back-flow valve which may be located on the side of the house under a big plastic fake rock.

Many sprinkler systems in Oklahoma have them. (50 % ?)  Under the plastic rock is a back-flow valve with two shut off handles.  Usually, they have blue or green or tan handles.  Turn one of the handles and it should shut off the water to your sprinkler system.

Other times the Emergency Shutoff Valve is in a box in the ground out by the curb near your water meter.  The valve box will have a green lid.  Sometimes they are difficult to open.  Many times, I had to pry them open with a flat head screwdriver.

Oklahoma Drainage Installs Drainage Systems,  and provides Expert Sprinkler System Repair.

Our Drainage Systems utilize French Drains, Surface Drains, Channel Drains, and Sump Pumps.  

We Service all of Central Oklahoma including: Norman, Moore, Edmond, Yukon, Mustang, Oklahoma City, Midwest City, Del City, Blanchard, Newcastle, Purcell and Chickasha.

Back-Flow-Valve Service, Sprinkler Repair

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair Provides Service for Back-Flow-Valves and all types of Lawn Sprinkler Repair and Service.  We have provided Expert Service for all of Central and Western Oklahoma Since 1993.

Back-Flow-Valves

There are two types of Back-Flow-Valves.

Above Ground

Above Ground Back-Flow-Valve

Above Ground Back-Flow-Valve.

 

Below Ground Back-Flow-Valve.

Below Ground Back-Flow-Valve

Below Ground Back-Flow-Valve

What is a Back-Flow-Valve?

A Back-Flow-Valve is a part of a Lawn Sprinkler System.  Water passes through it from the water source which can be a Water Meter or a Well Pump.  It forces water to travel in only one direction from the source to the sprinkler system.  It can’t travel backward back to the water source which again is a water meter or well pump.

A Back-Flow-Valve provides protection to the water source from back pressure and chemical contamination from lawn fertilizer.

Most Cities require a Back-Flow-Valve as “Code” for Sprinkler Installation.

Emergency Shut off

Back-Flow-Valves usually have an Emergency Shutoff valve on them that can shut off the water to the lawn sprinkler system but keep the water turned on to the home. Most Back-Flow-Valves have two Emergency Shut off Handles.  Either one will work.  Many times, they are hard to turn, however.

If there is a leak or water is shooting up in the air just turn the valve handle and give us a call.

In ground Back-Flow-Valve

Blue Emergency Shutoff handles for a Back-Flow-Valve.

Norman Sprinkler Checkup is a Central Focus for Oklahoma Drainage.  We Performed or first Sprinkler Repair in Norman in 1993.  It was in Brookhaven on the West side of Norman.

Recently we had a customer in Oklahoma City who wanted to move his Sprinkler Valves.  They were in a bad place in his flower bed.  He wanted to plant a tree where the valves were located.

We moved 4 Sprinkler Valves about feet out into the yard.  All the Sprinkler Pipes had to be redesigned and installed matching the new location and maintaining full functionality.

 

Inside the valve box is a plastic handle that can turn off the water to the sprinkler system.  It can be blue or red or grey in color.

Many times, the valve box will be full of dirt, and you can’t turn or even see the handle until some of the dirt has been dug out by hand.

 

Water might be shooting up in the air somewhere on your property.  This can be caused by a broken sprinkler pipe or sprinkler valve.

SHUT OFF THE SPRINKLER WATER IF YOU CAN AND GIVE US A CALL.

OKLAHOMA DRAINAGE AND SPRINKLER REPAIR. SERVICING ALL OF CENTRAL AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA.

405 203 9419

Servicing Oklahoma City, Norman, Edmond and all of Central and Western Oklahoma

 

 

French Drain Design must take into account many variables.  One consideration for a French Drain is Soil Type.  French Drain Design must take into account the type of soil that the French Drain runs through.  If the soil is “Tight or made up of Clay, A French Drain Liner may not be necessary.

When a French Drain, Is Installed in sandy soil, A Trench Liner is always needed.  As a result the French Drain Gravel stays clean.

The Gravel or Limestone that is used to fill the French Drain trench may be all that is needed to maintain the integrity of the trench over time.   This means that dirt will not mix in with the French Drain Gravel and clog it up over time.  This is not the case however if your soil is sandy or loose.

A Trench Liner should be used to prevent this type of soil from moving into the gravel of the French Drain.  Trench Liners are relatively inexpensive and are not hard to install.  If you are not sure what to do then install the Trench Liner in the French Drain.

Norman Oklahoma French Drain Installation, Water in Floor Vents and Duct Work.

Recently we installed a 4-inch French Drain with Trench Liner and Pipe Filter in West Norman on Harrogate Street.  Our customer had a heavy water build up area on the side of her house.  Water would pool up during a rain and sink down into her flower bed.  Once the slab and foundation of the house got very wet, the water would seep into the floor ducts for their Central Heat and Air unit.  This is bad for several reasons.

A wet foundation causes deterioration of the cement.  Cracks can occur leading to all sorts of other problems.

Water In your floor vents promotes mold and all the problems that come with that as well.

Oklahoma Drainage Installed 4 Inch French Drain with trench liner and pipe filter about one foot away from the wall where all the water was standing and penetrating the Duct Work.   The French Drain ran parallel to the house for 60 Feet.  At that point the French Drain transitioned to 4 Inch solid ADS Drain Pipe and continued South an additional 80 feet to a Curb Outlet installed at the street.

Curb Outlet

We cut the curb and installed a Curb Outlet With Acrylic Concrete to make it look nice and last without chipping.

Along the course of the French Drain, we also connected 2 Gutter Down Spouts Directly into the French Drain..

This provides more efficient movement of the storm water to the exit, but also creates suction in the French Drain behind it.

This is called the “Bernoulli Effect.” If you remember your High School Science Class.

 

Oklahoma Drainage has used these simple concepts many times to provide a solution to the above problem.

Water still had to be vacuumed out of the Duct Work.  But Future water was and is kept out of the Duct Work and Floor Vents.  Also, the Foundation Stays Dry.  No mold or foundation Break Down.

 

 

Trench Liner and Pipe Filter

Trench Liner and Pipe Filter

Determining the size of the French Drain Pipe can be difficult.  If the French Drain is not very big and has no Gutter Down-Spouts or Surface Drains connected to it then 3 inch or 4 inch French Drainpipe may be used.  If the French Drain is large or has many gutters or Surface Drains connected into it, then you should use 6 Inch French Drainpipe or larger.

 

French Drain Installation in Oklahoma City, Norman, Yukon, Mustang, Edmond, Lawton

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair 405 203 9419 — We provide:

    French Drain Installation, Surface Drain Installation, Drainage System Installation

    Sprinkler Repair for all aspects of Residential Sprinkler Systems

  

 

French Drain Installation, Oklahoma City, Duncan, Blanchard, New Castle, El Reno, Yukon, Mustang

Oklahoma Drainage – We install French Drains, Channel Drains, Surface Drains, Sump Pumps and Sod.

If You live in Oklahoma City and water damaging your foundation, We can install a French Drain for you.

 Or if you live in Norman and have water standing on your driveway, We can install a Channel Drain for you.

If you live in Edmond and have water flooding your basement, We can install a Sump Pump for you.

Or if you live in Moore and have water washing out your flower bed mulch, We can install a Surface Drain for you.

If you live in Yukon and need grass to grow we can install Sod too!

Servicing all of Central and Western Oklahoma since 1993.

When Installing a French Drain as part of a Drainage System, there are many things to consider.

What is the primary source of water coming into the problem drainage area.

Are there secondary sources of water entering the area. What are they and how many.

How fast does water enter the area and how often. What are the potential exit points for the water, 

Where do we want to take the water too.  Is there more than one potential exit point to increase drainage capacity.

Does the customer want a Drainage System or a Flood Prevention System and does he understand the difference.

New French Drain

French Drain along stem wall.

 

new curb outlet

Curb outlet with more than 6 inches of fall

Oklahoma Drainage 405 203 9419 — We provide:

    French Drain Installation, Surface Drain Installation, Drainage System Installation

 

Drainage Systems, French Drains, Surface Drains, Channel Drains, Sump Pumps, with 30 years of experience. 

 

walk way french drain

Completed French Drain under walkway

Just what is a “French Drain?” Many times, people incorrectly use the phrase, “French Drain,” when they mean “Surface Drain” or “Channel Drain.”

A basic French Drain

consists of a Perforated Drainpipe  in the bottom of a trench. The French Drain Trench runs through a Problem Drainage Area that needs to be drained.   The French Drainpipe is perforated (Full of Small Holes) and has Neo-Prene Soc around the pipe.  This soc helps prevent debris from clogging the French Drainpipe. The dirt that was taken out to make the trench is hauled away. It is replaced by some type of small stone or gravel depending on what is desired or available. I prefer crushed 1 inch limestone.

It is the most economical option in my area. Pea Gravel or some other type of small stone can work just as well. The limestone or gravel is placed in the trench on top of the perforated Drainpipe and filled all the way to the surface (ground level).

 

Oklahoma Drainage recently diagnosed a Drainage Problem in South Oklahoma City.  The Homeowner had a Deep French Drain down along the Stem wall of the house.  The French Drainpipe was cheap and had collapsed.  We brought in a Mini Excavator.

 They had a Sump Pump

in their basement that was fed from a French Drain outside the Basement Wall.  The French Drain was 14 feet down.  We used and Excavator and dug up the pipe and replaced it with Durable ADS 4 inch perf/soc French Drainpipe.  In the end, we were able to dig up the pipe and replace it.

Connecting Gutter into French Drain

New Trench for French Drain

Next, we installed a new exit for the water by installing a curb fitting. No more flooding in the customers basement.  A few weeks later our customer was able to lay carpet in the basement with no problems.

French Drain Installed Along Stem Wall

Oklahoma Drainage — Installing – French DrainsSurface DrainsChannel DrainsSump Pumps

 

Servicing all of Central and Western Oklahoma since 1993.

 

 

 

 

 

French Drain Installation

Oklahoma Drainage has been diagnosing and solving Drainage Problems since 1993.

As a result, we have gained a tremendous amount of experience.

Water has the ability to get into places around your home where you really don’t want it to be. This is never a good thing! Some drainage problems are easy to solve.  Typically, water enters the problem drainage area one way from one source. The really tricky drainage problems occur when water enters the problem drainage area from multiple directions and from multiple sources.  Sometimes a secondary water source can’t be seen or identified until the primary water problem source is eliminated.

Think About

You have to think about all the possible ways water can get into the problem area.  Sometimes it is obvious.  Sometimes its hard to determine all the possible water sources.

French Drain walk way

French Drain Installed along and under walkway to pool.

A drainage system is installed with a surface drain as the “intake” with drainage pipe running to an exit point.  Initially the water drains away and everything looks great.  The next day water is back and is all around the surface drain, but below the edge and it hasn’t rained at all, so no additional water ran over the surface of the ground to flood the area.

The primary water source was solved, ( The surface water run off ) but the secondary water source was not.  Which was sub-surface water, (ground water) running into the area.  A surface drain can’t drain “ground water.”  A French Drain should have initially been installed instead of a Surface Drain.  A French Drain can drain both Surface Water and Ground Water.

A French Drain Can Handle Standing Water

Oklahoma Drainage Services all of Central Oklahoma including: Norman, Moore, Edmond, Yukon, Mustang, Oklahoma City, Midwest City, Del City, Blanchard, Newcastle, Purcell and Chickasha.

Now we are expanding our service area to include

: Lawton, Altus, Duncan, Chickasha, Elk City, and all of Western Oklahoma.

 

Norman Oklahoma Drainage System, Oklahoma City, Edmond, Moore

Drainage Systems are made up of a French Drain or Surface Drain Connected to a Transition Pipe Leading to an Exit.

Sounds Simple.

Drainage Systems can be complicated too.  It is possible to have a Surface Drain and a Channel Drain, and a French Drain all connected to each other.  They are all then connected to a Larger Transition Pipe and require a larger Exit.

Consider Drainage Design.  How Much Water Do you have?  It can vary.   The water may be moving Fast or Slow.  Is the water moving above ground or below ground or both?  Do you have more than One Source?  What are their volumes?

There are other considerations as well.

If you need help, Call us!

Oklahoma City Drainage System. French Drain, Edmond, Norman, Oklahoma City

Oklahoma Drainage 405 203 9419 — We provide:

    French Drain Installation, Surface Drain Installation, Drainage System Installation

 OKLAHOMA CITY FRENCH DRAIN

 

Standing Water

Standing Water Needs a French Drain

We Install French Drains by themselves and as a part of Drainage Systems to protect Driveways, Sidewalks, Foundations all over Edmond.  French Drains may be installed in Flower Beds or grassy areas too.  French Drains when installed correctly can provide many years of property protection and Piece of Mind.

Understanding why a French Drain should be installed over a Surface Drain in particular situations is just one of many variables that must be considered when Diagnosing a Drainage Problem.

Many times, we are asked to look at Drainage Systems that aren’t working correctly.

 Here are a few common problems that we find:

French Drainpipe is too small for the Drainage Area.

No Exit for the French Drain.

French Drain is installed where a Surface Drain is needed.

Surface Drain is installed where a French Drain is needed.

Too many gutters connected to French Drain.

French Drain covered with dirt.

Exit Point Covered with Dirt.

Water flow is bad for French Drain, (trying to drain water up hill)

These are just a few of the Problems we are asked to solve when fixing a Drainage System that wasn’t designed correctly.

Drainage Systems can be made up of one drain or a combination of many drainsDrainage problems can be very complex.   Complex Drainage Problems may require a combination of several different types of drains all inter-connected and working together.  Other times the drainage problem may be simple and straight-forward requiring only one drain or several of the same type of drain connected together.

Cutting The Curb and Installing Curb Fitting With Acrylic Cement

Norman Oklahoma Drainage System

An example of a complex drainage system would be:  A French Drain in the back yard connected to a Surface Drain near a flower bed connected to several gutter downspouts, which are connected to a Channel Drain going across a driveway, which is connected to additional Surface Drain in the front yard, which runs to a Curb Fitting that lets all the water drain out on to the street.

A Simple Drainage System

A simple Drainage System might consist of a Surface Drain that is connected to a second Surface Drain which runs to a Pop-up Emitter which lets water drain over the curb and into the street.

An “Exit Point” is the term used for where all the water leaves the Drainage System.  Determining the Exit Point is very critical.  It is one of the first things we do when diagnosing a Drainage Problem.

Curb Outlet as an Exit Point for a French Drain in Edmond

Curb Outlet as an Exit Point for a French Drain in Edmond

Drainage Systems can:

1.  Keep water away from foundations — A French Drain is best because it can move Surface Water and Sub-Surface Water (water moving underground) away from the foundation.  Many times, less experienced companies install Surface Drains to keep water away from foundations.  This can be a big mistake.  A Surface Drain can’t move or drain Sub-Surface Water.   Also, A Surface Drain often can’t move enough water fast enough and easily becomes overwhelmed during a heavy rain.

A Surface Drain Can’t

A Surface Drain can’t cover or protect a broad enough area. Surface Drains should be designed in a Drainage System to be located in smaller Drainage Areas moving moderate amounts of water.  Surface Drains look better than French Drains.  If, “appearance” is more important than Drainage Capacity, Go with the Surface Drain.

Just know what you are getting into and what your expectations should be. One side of a foundation alone, can be over 100 feet.  A 4 inch or 6-inch French Drain is best when protecting a large area such as a foundation.

2.  Keep water away from small or in closed areas.  This might be a low area just through a gate on the side of a house, or the low area between a flowerbed and the wall of a house or standing water on or near a sidewalk or driveway.  These types of Drainage Problems are best served with Surface Drains.

A Surface Drain Can

A Surface Drain can move water away from a low area that is relatively small.  This can occur in yards, flowerbeds, sidewalks and driveways.  A surface Drain is designed to move Surface Water away from a problem area to a predetermined exit point.  Surface Drains are available in many sizes.  How quickly they remove standing water is usually determined by the size of the pipe that is connected to the drain.

Drainage System

Simply put, a Drainage System is one or a group of underground Drainpipes that take water away from a place that has water standing on it or flowing across it.  The water that is in the problem area, can be causing damage or may be inconvenient or both.  (Usually Both)

A simple Drainage System is a Drain for the water to enter, a Drainpipe to move the water away from the Drain, and an Exit Point for the water to be released out of the Drainpipe.

Norman Oklahoma Drainage System

Norman Oklahoma Drainage System

Drainage Systems quickly can become more complicated.

Considerations must include:

How does the water get to the problem area?  There may be one or many sources.

Water Sources:

1.  It falls from the sky directly

2.  It flows downhill over the surface (surface water)

3.  It flows underground under the surface (sub-surface water)

4.  It flows from the edge of a roof (There may be many roofs near the problem area, neighbors etc.)

5.  It flows from a gutter downspout

6.  It flows over the edge of a gutter because the gutter is too small or clogged

7.  It flows up from the ground (seeps and springs are common in Oklahoma)

8.  It flows from a sprinkler system use (yours or your neighbors)

9.  It flows from a leaking pipe (water mains, water meters, water lines, sprinkler pipes, sprinkler valves)

There are other reasons for Drainage Problems, the above reasons are just the most common.

Once the number of water sources is determined, a rough estimate of the amount of water that needs to be drained away on average must be estimated.  This can be simplified down to “SMALL, MEDIUM, OR LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER TO BE DRAINED AWAY.

Diagnosing Drainage Problems

You don’t have to be an engineer trying to calculate fluid dynamics.  Experience at diagnosing drainage problems helps however.  How much water needs to be moved will help determine the type and size of the Surface Drain or French Drain that needs to be installed.

It also helps to determine the size of Drainpipe required for the Drainage System.  A good rule to follow is, “If in doubt, install a larger Drain and Drainpipe.”  Unused Drainage Capacity is better than property damage caused by a Drain that is overwhelmed by too much water.

 Typical materials used are:

6 inch, 9 inch, and 12 inch Surface Drains

3 inch, 4 inch, and 6 inch Drainpipes

3 inch, 4 inch, and 6 inch French Drains

French Drains move more water than Surface Drains —

French Drains move Surface Water and Sub-Surface Water

Surface Drains move Surface Water only

Surface Drains look nicer than French Drains in most cases

Once the type and number of drains is determined and what size Drainpipe will connect them, an exit point must be selected.  (Where is the Drainage System going to take the water to and release it?)

Norman Oklahoma Drainage System

Norman Oklahoma Drainage System

The Drainage Curb Fitting

is installed when the desired exit point for the French Drain will release the Drainage Water into the Street.   The Drainage Curb Fitting is rectangular in shape and made to be installed through the curb.  A small section of Curb is cut out with a concrete saw.  The Section is a few inches wider than the Drainage Curb Fitting.  We then install new concrete around the curb fitting.  Once the concrete has dried, the Drainpipe coming from a French Drain or Surface Drain is connected to the Drainage Curb fitting and then covered with dirt.

 

 

 

Open French Drain Evolution.

French Drains today are not what they once were.  In the 1970s they might be installed by a landscaper or a brother-in-law who might have known a little about drainage.

French Drains were “Capped” in most cases.  Which means that the gravel in the French Drain had Dirt on top of it.  A Capped French Drain can only remove Ground Water.  It does nothing to remove “Surface Water.”

Ground Water

Ground Water is what it sounds like.  It is below ground.  Ground Water moves slowly downhill underground.

Surface Water

Surface water is also just what it sounds like.  It is water above ground.  In every case Surface Water moves downhill much faster than ground water.

Surface Drains

Surface Drains were added to or connected to Capped French Drain.  This improved the situation a little bit.  Some of the Surface Water went into the Surface Drain that was connected to the Capped French Drainpipe which then took the Mixture of surface water and ground water to the drain exit.

 

This combination of Surface Drains connected to Capped French Drain Failed during heavy Rains, however.   Fast moving Surface Water would just run around the Surface Drain and head on down the hill.  Other times the Surface Drains could not take in the water fast enough into the Drainpipe.  For this design to work, the Surface Water had to be moving slowly, and the Surface Drains had to be placed in low lying areas.

Over Time

Over time the above design would drain water away.  Depending on the volume this could take minutes or days.

Open French Drain

 

French Drain Near Driveway

French Drain Protecting Driveway

Out of necessity, the Open French Drain was born.  Simply put, don’t put dirt on top of the French Drain.  Fill the French Drain Trench completely with Gravel.

This design eliminates the need for the Surface Drains.  Water is taken in much faster than the surface drains ever could.  The Open French Drain also could cover a much larger and broader area.

Parts of a French Drain

Parts of a French Drain are Drainage Trench, French Drain Trench Liner, French Drainpipe, Gravel or Crushed Limestone, Transition Drainpipe and Drainage Exit.

Drainage Trench

A Drainage Trench is where a French Drainpipe is located.  The Drainpipe is placed in the bottom of the Drainage Trench.   It needs to be in a low area where the water is standing or flowing toward.

French Drain Trench Liner

Installing 4 Inch French Drain with trench Liner and pipe filter

The White Material is the Trench Liner. The black material is the Pipe Filter.

A liner is placed in the bottom of the Drainage Trench.  This liner allows water to enter the French Drain from the dirt surrounding the French Drain.  Underground water, AKA “Sub-Surface Water, “can be drained away.

French Drainpipe

French Drainpipe is perforated.  It is full of thousands of little holes.  The holes allow water to enter the French Drainpipe.  This can be Surface Water or Sub-Surface water.  A cloth filter is wrapped around the pipe.

Gravel or Crushed Limestone

Gravel or Crushed limestone is used to fill the French Drain Trench once the Perforated Pipe is installed.

Transition Drainpipe

A Transition Drainpipe is a Solid Pipe that is connected to the Downhill end of the French Drain.  It takes water away from the French Drain.

Drainage Exit

A Drainage Exit is a release point.  This is where water leaves the Solid Transition Drainpipe.

Pop up emitters

Pop up emitters for French Drain

Pop-Up Emitters are one potential exit for a Drainage System.

A Curb Outlet can also be used as an exit.

Curb Outlet for french drain

Curb Outlet for French Drain

 

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair — Installing – French DrainsSurface Drains – Channel Drains – Sump Pumps.

Providing Expert Sprinkler Repair – Broken Sprinkler Pipes Sprinkler Head AdjustmentSprinkler Valve Replacement

We provide Service for Folks in: Norman, Oklahoma City, Edmond, and Moore.

Central and Western Oklahoma is our Service Area since 1993.  

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French Drains can utilize several types and sizes of French Drainpipe.  An older type that is not commonly used any more is 4-inch PVC Pipe with large half inch holes drilled in the Pipe.  This doesn’t work very well, Because the holes are too large and the number of holes in the French Drainpipe are too few.  Also, there is no filter or “Soc” around this particular French Drainpipe.  If it is used in sandy or loose soil the holes will clog and the pipe will fill up with sand.  PVC French Drainpipe should be avoided.

ADS French Drainpipe is much better; the holes are smaller and much more numerous.  It also comes inside a soc that acts as a filter and helps keep sand and debris out of the French Drainpipe.  It works very well.

For Small business and Residential French Drains, four-inch ADS Perf/Soc French Drainpipe is adequate and the most common.  It is used for the majority of all Drainage Systems.

French Drains can be installed using 3-inch ADS Perf/Soc but many times it is too small and can be overwhelmed by a heavy rain or from a bad design.  (Too many gutters down spouts connected directly into the French Drain, For Example) Three Inch French Drainpipe should be avoided if possible.

6 Inch Pipe

Six-inch ADS Perf/Soc French Drainpipe is usually a good idea when possible.  It carries a much larger volume of water.  Six Inch pipes are rarely overwhelmed.

Drainage and Sprinkler Repair.  We have installed sod for all of Central and Western Oklahoma since 1993.

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair

We install sod and provide lawn leveling and dirt work services for all of Central and Western Oklahoma.  If you live in Edmond and need a low spot fixed in your yard, or if you live in Norman and want Fescue Sod installed under a tree in your front yard, we can help.

Oklahoma Drainage Installs Sod, Levels Lawns.   We also Install:  French Drains, Surface Drains, Channel Drains, and Sump Pumps.

Bermuda Sod Installed in Winter

Oklahoma Drainage Now is adding Sod Installation to our Drainage System Services.

Fescue

We install Fescue and Bermuda Sod by the “Pallet.”  Each Pallet provides roughly 450 square feet per pallet.

In the above picture, we installed two pallets of Fescue.  It was unrolled in the back yard and totally changed the appearance of the Yard.

new back yard sod

Fescue Sod in the back yard.

Fescue Sod must be installed in the shade and needs a lot of watering at the time of installation.  It also needs water on a regular basis to maintain it.

 

Bermuda

on the other hand needs sun and doesn’t do very well in a heavily shaded area.  It also is a little hardier than fescue and is more heat resistant.   It also needs lots of water at the time of installation.

Both types of sod need attention and water until they are established.  You can’t just unroll the new sod and leave it and expect good results.

If you have a Lawn Sprinkler System, then you are ahead of the game.  Dragging hoses around to keep new sod alive is a lot of work and must be taken into consideration before making a purchase.

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair, can deliver up to two Pallets of Sod at a time.

 

 

If you live in Norman and would like to have Fescue installed in your back yard, or your Edmond home needs Bermuda installed along the driveway, Give us a call.  Oklahoma City Residents are our largest sod customers, but we will deliver to Altus, Lawton, Ardmore,

Fescue sod in Edmond

Fescue Sod installed in Edmond

In the picture above, we also installed the metal “Back Yard Lighting” Poles set in concrete and then the new sod installed around them.  It looks nice.

Sprinkler Repair Service Provided by Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair

Since 1993 we have Replaced Sprinkler Valves that were sticking or were wore out.

Thousands of Sprinkler Heads have been adjusted.

Countless Sprinkler Controllers have been Reprogramed or Replaced.

We also have fixed a broken Sprinkler Pipe or Two.  Seems like a million.  Ok, not that many.

I wonder how many?  A lot!!!!

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair provides Service for all of Central Oklahoma Including:  Oklahoma City, Norman, Edmond, Moore, Yukon and Mustang.

French Drain or Surface Drain

French Drain Benefit That I Never Expected

Take a minute and CLICK the above link.  It makes me smile!

Wow! Where to begin?

French Drain or Surface Drain can be a complicated decision.  Which one do you Need?

 

First you have to understand what they are and what they do.

Both have a similar initial purpose.  Their Job is to get water into a solid Drainpipe so it can flow underground to the place where you want it to go.  A French Drain and a Surface Drain are Both “INTAKES”.  They take standing or running water into a Drainage System.

Three Parts

A Drainage System has 3 Parts.  An INTAKE, A TRANSITION, and an EXIT.  An Intake is a French Drain or a Surface Drain that takes water into a Drainpipe as previously stated.   The Transition is the solid Drainpipe that takes the water where you want it to go.  And finally, an Exit is simply where the water leaves the pipe.

A French Drain Takes water in through a perforated pipe.  Typically for 4 or 6 ich pipe.  The pipe has thousands of little holes that allow water to enter the pipe and flow to the transition.  Some type of gravel or crushed stone surrounds the French Drainpipe.

French Drain Installation

French drain Installation
with trench liner and pipe filter

The French Drainpipe in the above picture has a Black cloth filter around the 4-inch pipe and a white trench liner.  They are both semi permeable allowing water to pass into the pipe without dirt or debris clogging the pipe.  The trench is then filled with crushed limestone filling the trench and covering the pipe.

Surface Drains

A Surface Drain has a grate that sits on top of a basin.  Water comes in through the grate and goes directly into the Transition Drainpipe.

 

Surface Drains and French Drains are not created equal.  There are benefits and drawbacks to both.

Surface Drain Benefits:

Surface Drains look better when installed.

Surface Drains work better in small areas where the water is standing or moving slowly.

Surface Drain Drawbacks:

Surace Drains Don’t handle fast moving surface water across a broad area.  They take in some water, but the majority of the water just runs right around them or over the top of them.

Surface Drains can’t drain away or remove any kind of “Ground Water.”  Ground water has no way to get into the top of a Surface Drain.  If its muddy around a surface drain you have to wait until the heat or wind dries out the area.

French Drain Benefits:

French Drains can handle a much higher volume of water than a surface drain.

French Drains can intercept water with a higher velocity covering a broader area than a surface drain.

French Drains can also intercept ground water.  Most people don’t think about ground water moving.  It moves underground just like surface water moves above ground.  It just moves much slower.  A French Drain that is downhill from a muddy area will intercept and take in ground water moving downhill.  It enters the perforated pipe laterally underground and slowly enters the transition pipe and slowly flows or drips toward the exit point.  As a result the soil dry’s out much faster.

French Drain Drawbacks:

When first installed, a French Drain is not nearly as pretty as a surface drain.  Gravel running across your yard in a trench may not be appealing.

In sunny areas grass will grow over the French Drain over time.  This is perfectly fine.  It produces what is called a “Thatch Filter.” A Thatch Filter helps keep a French Drain clean along with the Pipe Filter and Trench Liner which also are installed to keep the French Drain clean and working well for Decades.

Don’t Cover a French Drain with Dirt

HOWEVER! YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN’T PUT DIRT ON TOP OF THE GRAVEL TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER.  EMAGINE GASSING UP YOUR CAR BY OPENING UP YOUR GAS CAP AND THEN POURING THE GAS ON THE ROOF OF YOUR CAR.  A DROP OR TWO MIGHT MAKE IT INTO YOUR GAS TANK.  IN THE SAME WAY A DROP OR TWO OF SURFACE WATER MIGHT MAKE IT INTO THE FRENCH DRAIN.  DIRT ON TOP OF A FRENCH DRAIN WILL ELIMATE ITS ABILITY TO DRAIN SURFACE WATER.  IF YOUR DRAINAGE PROBLEM ONLY STEMS FROM GROUND WATER THEN PUT DIRT ON IT.  THIS IS CALLED A “CAPPED” FRENCH DRAIN.

In shaded areas grass will never grow over the gravel of the French drain.  There are two options.  Get creative with stone work and landscaping or live with the ugly French drain.

Here are some fancy French Drains that we have installed.

 

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair has been Installing Surface Drains for a long time.  We started in 1993 so that makes 2024 our 31st year.  We have installed French Drains and Surface Drains in Oklahoma City, Moore, Yukon and Mustang, not to mention virtually every other town in Central or Western Oklahoma.

Still many people incorrectly mistake a “Surface Drain,” for a “French Drain.”  They are not the same thing.

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair — Installing – French DrainsSurface DrainsChannel DrainsSump Pumps.

Providing Expert Sprinkler Repair – Broken Sprinkler Pipes Sprinkler Head AdjustmentSprinkler Valve Replacement

We provide Service for Folks in: Norman, Oklahoma City, Edmond, and Moore.

Central and Western Oklahoma is our Service Area since 1993.  

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Oh! we also solve water problems and provide Drainage.

Oklahoma Drainage – We install French Drains, Channel Drains, Surface Drains, Sump Pumps and Sod.

If You live in Oklahoma City and water damaging your foundation, We can install a French Drain for you.

Or,If you live in Norman and have water standing on your driveway, consider a Channel Drain Installation.

If you live in Edmond and have water flooding your basement, a Sump Pump can help.

Or, you live in Moore and have water washing out your flower bed mulch, We can install a Surface Drain for you.

If you live in Yukon and need grass to grow, we can install Sod too!

This is not a French Drain!

The Picture Below is Not a French Drain Either.

 

Channel Drains are one type of Surface Drain.  A Surface Drain Is any type of drain that takes water in the top (Surface).  They have a Grate on top.

 

Below is a picture of a Surface Drain that many people will tend to call a “French Drain.”

 

 

A French Drain is a Perforated Drainpipe

with thousands of small holes in it.   It is placed in the bottom of a Drainage Trench that has been dug by the installer of the French Drain.  It should be placed on top of a Trench Liner which is placed first in the Drainage Trench.

The French Drainpipe has a cloth filter around the pipe as well.

French Drain Installation

French drain Installation
with trench liner and pipe filter

 

Once this is done correctly, the trench is filled with gravel of some type.  We use Crushed 67 grade Limestone.  The empty space from the top of the pipe to ground level is filled.  THE DEPTH OF EVERY FRENCH DRAIN TRENCH VARIES.  What Determines the depth can depend on several things.  But for now, just know that some French Drains are Shallow while others are Deep.  The Deeper the Drainage Trench, the more gravel it takes to fill it.

In the Picture above you can see the water stains on the concrete.  Water has been standing there a long time to make those types of stains.  Eventually the grass will completely grow over the limestone gravel.  Note!  Dirt should never be placed on top of a French Drain.  In sunny areas, grass will put out runners and grow over the limestone gravel.  Once covered it creates a Natural Filter called a Thatch Filter.  The French Drain continues to work great, and you don’t even know its there.

I have installed French Drains all the way back to 1993 that still work great with no maintenance.

In the picture above,

you can see that the grass is growing over the French Drain more slowly in the shaded area by the trash cans.  This can be sped up by sprinkling grass seed directly into the gravel.

 

French Drains in Full or Partial Shade, can be decorated instead of letting grass grow over them.

 

SWhen Installing a Drainage System, What kind of Drainpipe do you use and what size Drainpipe Do you need?

For a Drainage System you have 3 Choices of Drainpipe.  You can use ADS, Or Sewer and Drain, or Thick-Walled PVC Pipe.

ADS is Black and Flexible.  It is used in a majority of Drainage Systems.  It works well and is the easiest to install.

Multiple Drain Pipes

Multiple Drainpipes

connecting down spout

Connecting Gutter Down Spout to French Drain Under Sidewalk

Covering

Covering ADS Drainpipe

ADS is available in 3 inch, 4 inch, and 6 inch for residential and small business Drainage Applications.

Sewer and Drainpipe

is white, green, or grey and is thin walled.  It is used for cheap plumbing applications such as sewer lines.  SD Pipe is also used for inexpensive Drainage Systems.

A Drainage System using Sewer and Drainpipe is slightly cheaper than ADS.   SD is rigid and harder to install than ADS. It takes more time to install, and more digging is required at the joints or connections.

It is very difficult attaching a rigid Drainpipe to a curb outlet because the Pipe does not flex at the connection.  The pipe hits the curb outlet at a downward angle and does line up straight with the connection.  Many Drain Installation Companies use a piece of ADS on the end of the Sewer and Drainpipe and then connect it to the curb outlet.  Many times there is no other way to connect them depending on your downward slope.

 

Sewer and Drain is brittle after a short amount of time.  You can break it with a hammer.   Tree roots, many times squeeze the pipe and crack it causing it to leak.   It is not a good long-term solution for anything.

Thick walled PVC

is superior to ADS and Sewer and Drain.  It will last a lifetime.  It won’t crack under normal circumstances.

That being said, It is The most difficult of all to install.  It is not for weekend warriors or your brother-in-law who says he knows what he is doing.  Someone with a lot of experience is needed to install a Thick Walled PVC Drainage System.

SD and 40 schedule

SD Drainpipe and 40 schedule

Oh, by the way, 40 Schedule or 200 Class PVC is by far the most expensive.

If money is no object, then absolutely hire an Expert to install a Thick-walled PVC System.

There are two types of Thick Walled Pvc Pipe available for Drainage Systems, 40 Schedule and 200 class.

Forty Schedule is always the same thickness at a particular size pipe.

Two Hundred Class gets thicker as the pipe gets bigger.

Forty Schedule is thicker in pipes smaller than 2 inch.

Two hundred Class is thicker in pipes over 2 inch.

Typically 4 inch pipe is most commonly used in a Drainage Systems.  Forty Schedule and 200 Class are both very good in the 4 inch Size.

Drainpipe Options

The size of Drainpipe you use in your Drainage System is fairly simple.  You can use 3 Inch, 4 Inch, or 6 Inch.  Sometimes 2 inch can be used on a small single drain but it is easily overwhelmed by too much water.

Four Inch, as stated earlier is the most common size used in a Drainage System.

If your system is a Drainage System and not a Flood Prevention System, then 4 Inch Should be fine for most applications.

If your drainage system must handle a lot of water in a hurry and is designed intercept water to protect property then two 4 inch pipes may be needed or one 6 inch Pipe.  It can vary.

In 2015 we installed a Flood Prevention System that had two 6 inch pipes in the same trench.  Our customer never had water in her garage again.

If you can afford larger Drainpipe or more than one Drainpipe in the same trench, your Drainage System should do its job well.

If you connect 5 large Surface Drains to one small 3 inch pipe, be prepared for poor performance.  I’ve seen a large French Drain connected to a 3 inch pipe.  The water shot out of the exit point like a cannon and the problem drainage area stayed flooded for a long time.

I try not to use 3 inch at all for a Drainage System and I am very careful not to attach too large or too many drains to 4 inch.

FRENCH DRAIN OR SURFACE DRAIN?

When Determining what type of Drain you need for your Drainage System.  In our last blog, we talked about Surface Water and Sub-Surface water and why you need to understand them before designing your Drainage System.  If you need to review, click below.  If you have a question or comment please leave it at the bottom of the page. I will respond as quickly as I can.

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Before we get into Water Movement, we need to discuss Surface Drains.

Surface Drains come in many shapes and sizes.  The two most common are Basin Drains and Channel Drains.

A Basin Drain has a Square Grate and it sits on top of a catch basin.  It will have a single pipe connected to it or it will have a drain pipe running into it and a pipe running out of it.  We used this picture in a previous blog, but I want to show it to you again.

Surface Drain Connection

Surface Drain connected to a Transition Pipe

Below is a Basin before the pipe is connected to both sides.  The pipe is cut and connected to one side.   Another piece of Drain Pipe is connected to the other side.  The Drain pipe does not run straight through the basin.  Water must have a way to enter the Drain Pipe.  The Surface Drain in the picture is the most common size used in residential applications.  The Drain Pipe connecting to it is 4 inch ADS Solid Drain Pipe.

For a Surface Drain to work well it must be placed in a low lying area of standing water.  It is not intended to intercept moving water or to drain away Sub-Surface water.

 

In review, detecting Surface Water is straight forward.  You can observe how it flows into the Problem Drainage Area.

Sub-Surface water is not so easy.  You can’t see it move into the problem area.  So What do you do?

First take a look at your soil.  What type of soil do you have?

Soil with a lot of clay will have less Sub-Surface Water, Maybe none at all.  If you do have some it will move into the area slowly.  If you have sandy soil the underground water will move there in a hurry.  Most people will have something in between.

To be sure, a few simple tests can help.

Next check the problem drainage area when there is no water standing in it.  Is it soft and mushy when the surrounding area is more firm?  This is an indication that Sub-Surface Water is still flowing into the area.  Another way to collect information is to dig a small hole about a foot deep in the area. Check it every day for several days.  If water is standing in the hole, you have a Sub-Surface Water issue.  How fast it flows into the hole is also important.

OK, you have Sub-Surface water along with Surface Water in your problem drainage area.  Your Choice for the correct “Intake” for your Drainage System should be a French Drain.

OK, You have no Sub-Surface water. You only have Surface Water flowing into the problem area.  You need a French Drain If you are trying to intercept the water as it comes into the area.  Many times water will run around the surface drain and still flood the area.  Also the Surface Drain is much more easily overwhelmed and water will run past it that way too.  Again, this is very important,  If you are trying to intercept water before it gets to where its going, don’t use a Surface Drain.

A Surface Drain should be used in a Medium to Low Volume Water situation.  The water needs to be stationary or moving very slowly.  It should be placed in an area that is the lowest point in the Problem Drainage area.  They also work well in smaller confined areas such as pool decks, along sidewalks, or in flower beds.

More than one Surface Drain can be connected to one drain pipe in a “Daisy Chain” of Drains if you have several low spots in a larger area.

In many cases a small french drain can be installed in almost every place that a Surface Drain might be installed.  People opt for a Surface Drain over a French Drain because they like the way the Surface Drain looks more than the way the French Drain looks.  For some People, Looks are more important than functionality.

Installing concrete channel drain

Setting the concrete around the channel drain

 

Channel Drains are set in concrete or dirt but dirt is not always the best idea.  Setting a channel drain in dirt should only be done when a shallow surface drain is needed and that is the only option.

Channel drain in concrete

Channel drain in concrete

Setting a Surface Drain in Concrete such as a driveway or a Sidewalk is a good application for a Surface Drain.  Many times it is better to install a French Drain in your yard over a Surface Drain.  What ever makes you happy!

French Drains can be made to look very decorative.

decorative french drain

French Drains can be decorated with many types of stone

In conclusions,

French Drains are used for :  1.  Higher water volume situations  2.  Intercepting moving Surface Water  3.  Solving Sub-Surface water problems

Surface Drains are used for: 1.  Smaller water volume situations  2.  Standing Surface Water that has reached its destination   3.  Smaller and more confined areas  4.  Set in concrete such as sidewalks or Driveways

 

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Surface Drain Installation in Oklahoma City is provided by Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair.

Oklahoma Drainage –  We install French Drains, Channel Drains, Surface Drains, Sump Pumps and Sod.

If You live in Oklahoma City and water damaging your foundation, we can install a French Drain for you.

Channel Drain Installation is Provided by Oklahoma Drainage for Norman Residents.

If you live in Edmond and have water flooding your basement, we can install a Sump Pump for you.

Surface Drain Installation can solve many water problems for residents of Moore.

If you live in Yukon and need grass to grow, we can install Sod too!

Oklahoma Drainage – 405 203 9419

Storm water can cause all types of problems in and around your home.  We are dedicated to solving all types of Drainage and Standing Water Problems.

 

 

  We service all of Central Oklahoma including Edmond, Oklahoma City, Moore, Norman, Midwest City, Del City, Purcell, Blanchard, Newcastle, Mustang, Yukon. Now servicing Lawton and Altus.

 

Drainage System Installation in Norman

Surface Drain Installation

Drainage System Installation in Norman

French Drain installation is a big focus for Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair. A French Drain is one part of a Drainage System. A French Drain can be connected to other types of Drains or Gutter Downspouts and then run through Drainpipe to an Exit point where the water is released.

Exit Point

A Drainage Exit Point is the area where water goes to be released when it comes out of the Drainage System. The two most common exit points for a Drainage System are a Pop-Up Emitter or a Curb Fitting.
A Pop-Up Emitter is a Fitting on the end of a Drainpipe that has a lid that pops up and releases water. When water drainage is complete, the lid shuts back.

Popup Emitter to release water from a Drainage System in Yukon.

Pop-Up Emitter for French Drain

Just what is a “French Drain?”  Many times, people incorrectly use the phrase, “French Drain,” to apply to many different types of Drains that could be used in a Drainage System.  The term is widely used and many times incorrectly connected to “Surface Drains,” or “Channel Drains.”

Surface Drains

A Surface Drain has a grate that sits on top of a basin.  The basin is underground.  A Drainpipe is connected underground to an outlet on the Drain BasinStormwater Drains through the grate into the Drain Basin.  Once in the Drain Basin, water travels out of the basin through a Drainpipe.  The Stormwater continues downhill in an underground Drainpipe to an exit point.

Surface Drain in Edmond Oklahoma

Surface Drain in Edmond Oklahoma

THIS IS NOT A FRENCH DRAIN!

A Surface Drain may come in many different shapes or sizes.  The Drain Grate may be round or square.  Here is a picture of a common Surface Drain.

Channel Drain

A Channel Drain is a type of Surface Drain, and many times is installed in concrete across sidewalks or driveways

A French Drain is completely different from a Surface Drain.  A basic French Drain consists of a Perforated Drainpipe in the bottom of a trench.  The Drainpipe should have a neoprene sock around the Perforated Drainpipe.   This is to ensure that the Drainpipe does not become clogged.

The dirt that was taken out to make the trench is hauled away.  It is replaced by some type of small stone or gravel depending on what is desired or available.  I prefer crushed 1 inch limestone.  It is the most economical option in my area.  Pea Gravel or some other type of small stone can work just as well.    The limestone or gravel is placed in the trench on top of the perforated Drainpipe and filled all the way to the surface (ground level).

In some cases where the French Drain needs to be deep or is being placed in sandy soil, a special trench liner must be placed in the trench before the perforated Drainpipe, or the Gravel are installed.  This helps maintain the integrity of the trench over time.  It also increases the cost of the French Drain and the amount of time to install it.  I install a trench liner in a French Drain Every time.

French Drain March 2011
A French Drain is designed to handle a large volume of water and cover a large area. The Drain is anyplace the trench goes. It has many applications and can be used in many situations.  It can be installed by itself or incorporated into a Drainage System with Surface Drains or Gutter Downspouts connected to it.

French Drain Drawbacks

The main downfall of a French Drain is, that they, for the most part isn’t very pretty.  They don’t look very nice in a yard once they are completed.
Depending on the area the French Drain is installed and the type of grass around the French Drain, will dictate whether grass grows over the limestone.
Grass can grow up and through the gravel in the French Drain over time eventually covering the gravel.  This is Ok.  It won’t have a measurable effect on the performance of the drain.
DON’T COVER THE GRAVEL IN THE FRENCH DRAIN WITH DIRTTHE FRENCH DRAIN WON’T WORK IF THE TRENCH IS CLOGGED WITH DIRT.  DON’T EVEN INSTALL IT IF YOU ARE GOING TO COVER IT UP WITH DIRT.  PUTTING DIRT OVER A FRENCH DRAIN IS LIKE PUTTING A CORK BACK IN A BOTTLE.

DECORATIVE STONE CAN BE USED TO COVER A FRENCH DRAIN AND THEY LOOK GREAT AND LAST A LIFETIME.

Edmond Sprinkler Valve Replacement.

Sprinkler Valves can Freeze in the winter and stop working.  They can be crushed by something heavy like a car driving across your yard.  Sprinkler Valves can just wear out too.  Unfortunately, when this occurs, they can get stuck in the “ON Position.”

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair have been installing and servicing Sprinkler Valves since 1993.

What Is a Sprinkler Valve?

Think of a Sprinkler Valve as an “Off or on” Switch.    The Sprinkler Controller   turns the valves on or off.

It Sends a signal through a wire which is underground to the sprinkler valve somewhere in your yard.

Once turned on, the valve lets water pass through a sprinkler pipe to a specific group of sprinkler heads called a Sprinkler Zone.  The controller allows water to reach the sprinkler heads for a certain amount of time running through the sprinkler valve.  Once the time is up, it shuts off the sprinkler valve and moves on to the next valve in sequence.

Think of it as walking into every room in your house one at a time.  As you enter you turn on the light.  As you leave you turn off the light and move to the next room. You are the controller.  The light switch represents the sprinkler valve.

What causes a Sprinkler Valve to stop working?

Like anything else, a sprinkler valve can wear out.   Sprinkler valves fail in closed position.  It won’t run continuously if it breaks.

Sprinkler Valves get stuck while running sometimes.   The water supply must be then turned off to stop the Sprinkler from running.

Sprinkler Valves can freeze and break in the winter if the sprinkler system has not been properly drained for winter’s cold.

(winterized)

Tree roots can twist or break sprinkler pipes running into sprinkler valves.  Magnolia Trees are really bad about this.  Oak trees can cause damage too.

Driving something heavy across your yard can crush sprinkler valves.  Usually riding lawnmowers don’t cause damage but any truck or car will if you drive over a valve.

Sprinkler Repair Service Provided by Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair

Since 1993 we have Replaced Sprinkler Valves that were sticking or were wore out.

Thousands of Sprinkler Heads have been adjusted.

Countless Sprinkler Controllers have been Reprogramed or Replaced.

We also have fixed a broken Sprinkler Pipe or Two.  Seems like a million.  Ok, not that many.

I wonder how many?  A lot!!!!

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair provides Service for all of Central Oklahoma Including:  Oklahoma City, Norman, Edmond, Moore, Yukon and Mustang.

Emergency Sprinkler Repair

Sometimes things go wrong with sprinkler systems.

 

IF YOU NEED HELP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR ON A WEEKEND WITH YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM, GIVE US A CALL.

OKLAHOMA DRAINAGE AND SPRINKLER REPAIR.  405 203 9419

IT MAY TAKE A FEW HOURS FOR US TO GET THERE BUT WE WILL COME TO HELP.

 

One Common problem is that they continue to run and won’t shut off.  In most cases this is a problem with a sprinkler valve that has “Stuck” in the on position.

This can be temporarily solved by shutting of the Emergency Shutoff Valve.  The problem is that some sprinkler systems don’t have one to turn off or if they do the homeowner doesn’t know where it is.

It may be on the back-flow valve which may be located on the side of the house under a big plastic fake rock.

Many sprinkler systems in Oklahoma have them. (50 % ?)  Under the plastic rock is a back-flow valve with two shut off handles.  Usually, they have blue or green or tan handles.  Turn one of the handles and it should shut off the water to your sprinkler system.

Other times the Emergency Shutoff Valve is in a box in the ground out by the curb near your water meter.  The valve box will have a green lid.  Sometimes they are difficult to open.  Many times, I had to pry them open with a flat head screwdriver.

 

Inside the valve box is a plastic handle that can turn off the water to the sprinkler system.  It can be blue or red or grey in color.

Many times, the valve box will be full of dirt, and you can’t turn or even see the handle until some of the dirt has been dug out by hand.

 

Water might be shooting up in the air somewhere on your property.  This can be caused by a broken sprinkler pipe or sprinkler valve.

SHUT OFF THE SPRINKLER WATER IF YOU CAN AND GIVE US A CALL.

OKLAHOMA DRAINAGE AND SPRINKLER REPAIR. SERVICING ALL OF CENTRAL AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA.

405 203 9419

Servicing Oklahoma City, Norman, Edmond and all of Central and Western Oklahoma

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair — Installing – French DrainsSurface Drains – Channel Drains – Sump Pumps.

Providing Expert Sprinkler Repair – Broken Sprinkler Pipes Sprinkler Head Adjustment – Sprinkler Valve Replacement

We provide Service for Folks in: Norman, Oklahoma City, Edmond, and Moore.

Central and Western Oklahoma is our Service Area since 1993.  

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Standing Water on Driveways and Sidewalks is a problem for many Oklahomans.  Oklahoma Drainage provides solutions in the form of Channel Drains and Surface Drains set in concrete.

French Drain Installation Or Do You Need A Surface Drain?

Many Folks don’t know the difference.   Actually, there are many differences and a few similarities.  One difference is, a French Drain takes in a larger amount of water into the drainpipe than a Surface Drain.  There are advantages to Surface Drains as well.

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Large 6 Inch French Drain Installed in Norman
Large 6 Inch French Drain Installed in Norman

Drainage Systems can be made up of one drain or a combination of many drainsDrainage problems can be very complex.   Complex Drainage Problems may require a combination of several different types of drains all inter-connected and working together.  Other times the drainage problem may be simple and straight-forward requiring only one drain or several of the same type of drain connected together.

Drainage System

An example of a complex drainage system would be:  A French Drain in the back yard connected to a Surface Drain near a flower bed connected to several gutter downspouts, which are connected to a Channel Drain going across a driveway, which is connected to additional Surface Drain in the front yard, which runs to a Curb Fitting that lets all the water drain out on to the street.

A simple Drainage System might consist of a Surface Drain that is connected to a second Surface Drain which runs to a Pop-up Emitter which lets water drain over the curb and into the street.

An “Exit Point” is the term used for where all the water leaves the Drainage System.  Determining the Exit Point is very critical.  It is one of the first things we do when diagnosing a Drainage Problem.

Drainage Systems can:

1.  Keep water away from foundations — A French Drain is best because it can move Surface Water and Sub-Surface Water (water moving underground) away from the foundation.  Many times, less experienced companies install Surface Drains to keep water away from foundations.  This can be a big mistake.  A Surface Drain can’t move or drain Sub-Surface Water.

Also, A Surface Drain often can’t move enough water fast enough and easily becomes overwhelmed during a heavy rain.  A Surface Drain also can’t cover or protect a broad enough area. Surface Drains should be designed in a Drainage System to be located in smaller Drainage Areas moving moderate amounts of water.  Surface Drains look better than French Drains.

Appearance

If, “appearance” is more important than Drainage Capacity, Go with the Surface Drain.  Just know what you are getting into and what your expectations should be. One side of a foundation alone, can be over 100 feet.  A 4 inch or 6 inch French Drain is best when protecting a large area such as a foundation.

Surface Drain Installed next to sidewalk in Oklahoma City.
Surface Drain Installed next to sidewalk in Oklahoma City.

2.  Keep water away from small or enclosed areas.  This might be a low area just through a gate on the side of a house, or the low area between a flowerbed and the wall of a house or standing water on or near a sidewalk or driveway.  These types of Drainage Problems are best served with Surface Drains.  A Surface Drain can move water away from a low area that is relatively small.  This can occur in yards, flowerbeds, sidewalks and driveways.  A Surface Drain is designed to move Surface Water away from a problem area to a predetermined exit point.  Surface Drains are available in many sizes.  How quickly they remove standing water is usually determined by the size of the Drainpipe that is connected to the Drain.

Surface Drain Installation in Norman
Surface Drain Installation in Norman

Simply put, a Drainage System is one or a group of underground Drainpipes that take water away from a place that has water standing on it or flowing across it.  The water that is in the problem area, can be causing damage or may be inconvenient or both.  (Usually Both) A simple Drainage System is a Drain for the water to enter, a Drainpipe to move the water away from the Drain, and an Exit Point for the water to be released out of the Drainpipe.

6 Inch Drainage System

Recently we installed a large 6-inch French Drain in a home in Northwest Edmond.  The homeowner was getting water in their floor Duct Work every time it rained.  Installing a large French Drain along the wall in their flower bed solved the problem.  No longer is water seeping into their foundation and coming up in their vents.

Connecting Gutters into a Drainage System is a good idea!
Connecting Gutters into a Drainage System is a good idea!

 

Surface Drain Installation.  Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair Installs and Services Surface Drains.
A Surface Drain can’t move or drain Sub-Surface Water.

Surface Drain

Surface Drain Installation

Surface Drains Can’t Remove Ground Water

A Surface Drain often can’t move enough water fast enough and easily becomes overwhelmed during a heavy rain.  A Surface Drain also can’t cover or protect a broad enough area.

Surface Drains should be designed in a Drainage System to be located in smaller Drainage Areas moving moderate amounts of water.  Surface Drains look better than French Drains.

If, “appearance” is more important than Drainage Capacity, Go with the Surface Drain.  Just know what you are getting into and what your expectations should be. One side of a foundation alone, can be over 100 feet.  A 4 inch or 6-inch French Drain is best when protecting a large area such as a foundation.

Surface Drains Work Well in Smaller Areas

Keep water away from small or enclosed areas.  This might be a low area just through a gate on the side of a house, or the low area between a flowerbed and the wall of a house or standing water on or near a sidewalk or driveway. These types of Drainage Problems are best served with Surface Drains.

A Surface Drain can move water away from a low area that is relatively small.  This can occur in yards, flowerbeds, sidewalks and driveways.

A Surface Drain is designed to move Surface Water away from a problem area to a predetermined exit point. Surface Drains are available in many sizes.  How quickly they remove standing water is usually determined by the size of the Drainpipe that is connected to the Drain.

Surface Drain Installation in Norman

Channel Drain Installation Is a Central Focus for Oklahoma Drainage.  We have been Installing Channel Drains set in Concrete since 1993.

Channel Drain Set in Concrete

Channel Drains can look great and be very functional and durable.

However, A Channel Drain is not an easy thing to install!  It takes a great deal of precision, Experience, and Attention to Detail.  This is Definitely Not something to allow your Landscape Company to attempt, or your Brother-In-Law!

Just because someone is skilled at pushing a mower around, doesn’t mean you should let them cut across your driveway with a concrete saw.

I get a lot of business fixing and replacing Drains of all types that were installed incorrectly by landscape companies and armatures.  Typically, they stick to messing up French Drains, but I have fixed Channel Drains that were an absolute “Train Wreck!” as well.

 

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Surface Drain Installation

French Drain Installation —   French Drains are designed to do a lot of things.  If you have an area that has unwanted water standing in it or running across it, a French Drain can be the answer.

French Drain is a trench that runs across the Drainage Problem Area.  A French Drainpipe is placed in the bottom of the trench.  The French Drainpipe is perforated with thousands of small holes.  In most cases the Drainpipe has a nylon soc around the pipe to act as a filter for the French Drain.

The French Drain trench is then filled with some type of small rock or stone.  We typically use crushed 1 inch Limestone to cover the French Drainpipe.  The dirt that was dug out of the trench is taken away or spread out around the French Drain.  The Limestone replaces the dirt and fills the French Drain Trench all the way to the surface.

 

When water come in contact with the French Drain, it seeps down through the stones and into the French Drainpipe.  It then flows through the Drainpipe to the exit point.  Typically, a French Drain will have two possible exit points.   The First is called a “Pop-Up Emitter.”  It is a Green Lid on top of a release basin for the French Drain.

 

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When Installing a French Drain as part of a Drainage System, there are many things to consider.

What is the primary source of water coming into the problem drainage area.

Are there secondary sources of water entering the area.

What are they and how many.

How fast does water enter the area and how often.

What are the potential exit points for the water,  Where do we want to take the water too.  Is there more than one potential exit point to increase drainage capacity.

Does the customer want a Drainage System or a Flood Prevention System and does he understand the difference.

 

Oklahoma Drainage recently diagnosed a Drainage Problem in South Oklahoma City.  The Homeowner had a sump Pump in their basement that was fed from a French Drain outside the Basement Wall.

The French Drain was 14 feet down along the Stem wall of the house.  The French Drainpipe was cheap and had collapsed.  We brought in a Mini Excavator and dug up the pipe and replaced it with Durable ADS 4 inch perf/soc French Drainpipe.  In the end, we were able to dig up the pipe and replace it.

French Drains can be installed by themselves, or as part of a Drainage System that uses other French Drains, Surface Drains, or other Drain combinations.

Typically,

a French Drain is used to protect a broad area that has a lot of standing water.  A French Drain might run alongside a home’s foundation, or beside a driveway, or on any Drainage Project where Sub-Surface water is the primary problem.  If water is running toward your home underground (through sandy soil), A French Drain is the only Solution for draining away water flowing underground.

 

6 Inch French Drain

6 Inch French Drain

If you live in Oklahoma City and need a French Drain installed in your yard, or along your driveway, or near your foundation, give us a call.

If you live in Edmond or Norman and need a Surface Drain installed in the concrete in your sidewalk or driveway, we can help.  If you live in Mustang or Yukon and would like to protect your trees or flower beds from standing water with a French Drain, Oklahoma Drainage specializes in just that!

 

Oklahoma Drainage and Sprinkler Repair

Servicing Central Oklahoma including Oklahoma City, Norman, Edmond, Midwest City, Del City, Yukon, Mustang, Moore, Norman, Purcell, Newcastle, Blanchard and surrounding areas.  For an additional charge we will travel outside Central Oklahoma. We have  installed a Drainage Systems as far away as Ardmore, Altus, or Tulsa.

 

This is a great place for a French Drain!

Central Oklahoma thunderstorms can cause damage!  Every time it rains, Do you have water standing in the wrong place? Does Stormwater runoff leave water standing on your driveway, sidewalk, backyard, flowerbed, or one of many low spots in your yard?  WE can help!

We can quickly diagnose your drainage problems and design a solution through the use of one or several kinds or drains in combination.

Get rid of standing water!